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Highlander Of Alba · Dec 20, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

Hi SS if i am not mistaken you said you have Sundering Rhinos charge hammer?
Have you just purchased the compilation pack/trilogy

As that hammer is bonus wepon is it not ??

If it is then you have the fire imp to help you along also

As others have said you may have taken wrong route in beacons..refugees quest takes you to next mission area .

Quaker · Dec 20, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

I think you mostly need to reconfigure your armor a bit. At this point, given your armor and health, etc., you shouldn't be using the Superior Tactics Rune - the +2 tactics is not worth the -75 health. Also, only 1 Absorption Rune has effect, they don't stack. So, I would recommend:

Armor
Helm - Since you are using a Hammer, make sure the helm has either Hammer Mastery+1, or Strength+1, (or attribute+1) built in. If it has Swordsmanship or Axe Mastery built in you should either get a new helm, or switch to using a sword or axe. If it has Tactics+1, only use it if you actually need points in Tactics (see below). If the helm has attribute+1 built in, you should put your Minor Hammer Mastery Rune on it. (Putting your Hammer, Axe or Sword Rune on the helm makes it easier to swap between weapon types later on)

For Runes, you should put Minor Hammer Mastery, Minor Tactics, Minor Strength, Superior Absorption (no health penalty and cheap), and (at least) Minor Vigor. It doesn't matter which one goes on which piece, except as noted above with the Helm.
(If you're not using Tactics or Strength you could replace one of them with Vitae. You could also replace the Superior Aborption with Vitae, it's debatable which one is better.)

You should then (at this point in the game) put Survivor Insignias on each armor piece as you can afford them. Until you can afford them, you can use various Insignias you salvage from dropped armor, if they seem to be beneficial.

Attributes
Make sure you put enough points in Hammer Mastery to meet the Sundering Rhinos requirement of 9.

Make sure you have enough points in Strength or Tactics to meet your Shield's requirement. (see below)

Put attribute points in the lines that are used by the skills you carry, but don't try to spread yourself too thin. Don't try to use skills that rely on Hammer Mastery AND Tactics AND Strength AND some Necro attribute. Reduce that to only 2 or 3 lines. (At this point I would say to forget about Necro stuff altogether.)

If your skill bar requires, for example, Hammer Mastery and Strength, but no Tactics, replace the Minor Tactics Rune with Vitae, replace your shield, if it requires tactics, for one that requires strength, and then take all points out of Tactics.

Fighting
As has been said, try not to take on too many enemies at once.

Always have 2 healers in your group (or a healer and a protector).

You say you have AL 65 armor, which is gotten in the Maguuma Jungle area, yet you say you are in Beacon's Perch. It sounds as though you must be going in the right direction, but as Murfy24 says, make sure you go into Deldrimor Bowl from BP, not Lornar's Pass.

Quaker · Dec 20, 2008, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by Highlander Of Alba

Hi SS if i am not mistaken you said you have Sundering Rhinos charge hammer?
Have you just purchased the compilation pack/trilogy

That hammer is also part of the Game of the Year bonus pack.

gremlin · Dec 20, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

The DP in the game is not a big handecap untill you reach the point where one shot from the enemy kills you.

What you need to do is when you are unlucky and get your first minus from being killed back off, dont keep resurrecting people in the middle of combat it just makes things worse.
Either beat the mob or back off and res when the mob loses interest.

You can remove dp with items in the game praying at some shrines and by killing enemies.
Look for smaller easier groups of enemies and kill them to reduce the dp before going back to the main mission.

Remember some targets are more important than others when it comes to mobs, warrior types are low priority for me.
I kill the healers first then any other spellcasters then the grunts.

If you have henchemen they attack what target you attack 3 human players attacking 3 different targets can really confuse them.
Plan attacks and let one player call the target.

S_S · Dec 26, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

I was wondering about the runes and the names of them,that way I wont make the same mistake twice.And is there another way past Lornar's pass that would be a bit easier,if that is where I need to go for the better armor and runes.

S_S · Dec 26, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

wanted to show you all what I had for armor and weapons,hope this works.
S_S

TheRaven · Dec 26, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Yikes!

Ok, I won't comment on your skillbar, because I've never played a hammer warrior myself. I have no clue if those hammer skills are good or bad. However, I'd recommend dumping the cap sig for now.

However, you really need a crash course in attribute distribution NOW!! You have points spread into every attribute. THIS...IS....NOT.....GOOD! Basically your point spread needs to match your skill bar. You're wasting your points in attributes that you aren't using. You have 6 in axe mastery. Why?? You aren't using an axe. You've also allocated points into your necro lines, yet you aren't using Necro skills.

As a hammer warrior, you need to push Hammer Mastery up as far as it will go. First you need to take all your attributes down to 0 and start fresh. Next, put as many points into Hammer mastery as you can. 2nd, put as many points into strength as you can. Anything left over goes into tactics.

If you want to experiment with 1 or 2 Necro skills on your bar then be sure to put some attributes in the Necro line as appropiate. However never forget that you are a warrior, not a necro. Your necro skills should only supplement and support your warrioring. (Psst, Plague Touch is a good one)

Good Luck in your adventuring. If you have bought any of the other campaigns your warrior will be able to crossover into them once you reach Lion's Arch. You are close.

Healing Fool · Dec 26, 2008, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Do you have Necromancer skills on your skillbar? My suggestion would be to unspec all the necro attribute points and use them for your warrior attributes. There's really no need to spec points into everything. You're cutting yourself too thin on the effectiveness of your skills. By removing the attribute points from all the necromancer attributes, you will have more then enough to spec 9 into tactics to meet your shield requirement, if you choose to use axe or sword.

Also, only use one of the weapon attributes (i.e. hammer but not axe or sword mastery). You can save skill setups with your hero panel and load/save different skill combinations (called builds) from any town or outpost. Also, get a helm that adds +1 to an attribute. Or one for each of the weapon masteries to use whenever you want to change the weapon you are using. There's really no reason to have more then a minor tactics rune. If you want a superior rune, use it for your weapon of choice. And get a superior absorption rune instead of the major one.

Also, get a vigor rune that you can afford and put it into your armor somewhere. I would also suggest only using the nevermore flatbow for pulling if that's what you have the bows for.

Hope this helps.

S_S · Dec 26, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

HEHEHE harsh,but very,very true about the attribute distribution.I was never very good at attribute distribution,guess I try to spread myself to thin to try and cover more then I should.Again more helpful info,thanks alot Raven,i'll see what I can do about my attributes.
S_S

S_S · Dec 27, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Thanks a lot guys.
S_S

S_S · Dec 27, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Ok,I did my Attribute points over again,see if this is better.

TheRaven · Dec 27, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Much better! I'd recommend pushing your hammer mastery up higher. Buy a +1 Hammer headgear and a minor hammer rune. This will help you out with your damage.

Also, something you said earlier just clicked in my head. In your first post you said you and your friends were level 20 or close to it....yet you're only at Beacon's Perch? My prophecies characters didn't reach level 20 until about midway thru the jungle and I did every single quest I could leading up to that point.

You are still in the early stages of the game at Beacon's. How is it that you are level 20 already? What is your primary quest in your quest log?

Also stay out of Lornar's Pass. It's one of the more difficult areas in the game and it's not necessary for you to travel thru it. You want to reach Lion's Arch which is thru Deldrimor Bowl. Once in Lion's Arch a lot of possibilities open up for you. You can buy better armor and if you make it there before New Year's Day, you can participate in some snow covered fun events.

S_S · Dec 27, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Our primary quest is Battle Preparations,(right now) we came back to Beackons Perch to get to Lornars Pass,i think for better armor.We passed through there almost a year ago. We were in the jungles.but I think BLOOD STONE FEN was the last area we were at.

Healing Fool · Dec 27, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Battle Preparations is a Nightfall quest. If you want to continue your way through Prophecies, you should do the Bloodstone Fen mission. But, you should make sure your friends skill bars and attributes are more along the lines of the last one you posted for their professions.

S_S · Dec 27, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

Thanks to everyone for the help,maybe now we can get back to normal,a special thanks goes to Healing Fool for his in game help.
Thanks Again
Guild S_S

Dec 20, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#22
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	I think you mostly need to reconfigure your armor a bit. At this point, given your armor and health, etc., you shouldn't be using the Superior Tactics Rune - the +2 tactics is not worth the -75 health. Also, only 1 Absorption Rune has effect, they don't stack. So, I would recommend: Armor Helm - Since you are using a Hammer, make sure the helm has either Hammer Mastery+1, or Strength+1, (or attribute+1) built in. If it has Swordsmanship or Axe Mastery built in you should either get a new helm, or switch to using a sword or axe. If it has Tactics+1, only use it if you actually need points in Tactics (see below). If the helm has attribute+1 built in, you should put your Minor Hammer Mastery Rune on it. (Putting your Hammer, Axe or Sword Rune on the helm makes it easier to swap between weapon types later on) For Runes, you should put Minor Hammer Mastery, Minor Tactics, Minor Strength, Superior Absorption (no health penalty and cheap), and (at least) Minor Vigor. It doesn't matter which one goes on which piece, except as noted above with the Helm. (If you're not using Tactics or Strength you could replace one of them with Vitae. You could also replace the Superior Aborption with Vitae, it's debatable which one is better.) You should then (at this point in the game) put Survivor Insignias on each armor piece as you can afford them. Until you can afford them, you can use various Insignias you salvage from dropped armor, if they seem to be beneficial. Attributes Make sure you put enough points in Hammer Mastery to meet the Sundering Rhinos requirement of 9. Make sure you have enough points in Strength or Tactics to meet your Shield's requirement. (see below) Put attribute points in the lines that are used by the skills you carry, but don't try to spread yourself too thin. Don't try to use skills that rely on Hammer Mastery AND Tactics AND Strength AND some Necro attribute. Reduce that to only 2 or 3 lines. (At this point I would say to forget about Necro stuff altogether.) If your skill bar requires, for example, Hammer Mastery and Strength, but no Tactics, replace the Minor Tactics Rune with Vitae, replace your shield, if it requires tactics, for one that requires strength, and then take all points out of Tactics. Fighting As has been said, try not to take on too many enemies at once. Always have 2 healers in your group (or a healer and a protector). You say you have AL 65 armor, which is gotten in the Maguuma Jungle area, yet you say you are in Beacon's Perch. It sounds as though you must be going in the right direction, but as Murfy24 says, make sure you go into Deldrimor Bowl from BP, not Lornar's Pass. Last edited by Quaker; Dec 20, 2008 at 03:41 PM // 15:41..

Dec 20, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27	#21
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	Hi SS if i am not mistaken you said you have Sundering Rhinos charge hammer? Have you just purchased the compilation pack/trilogy As that hammer is bonus wepon is it not ?? If it is then you have the fire imp to help you along also As others have said you may have taken wrong route in beacons..refugees quest takes you to next mission area .

Dec 20, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56	#24
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	The DP in the game is not a big handecap untill you reach the point where one shot from the enemy kills you. What you need to do is when you are unlucky and get your first minus from being killed back off, dont keep resurrecting people in the middle of combat it just makes things worse. Either beat the mob or back off and res when the mob loses interest. You can remove dp with items in the game praying at some shrines and by killing enemies. Look for smaller easier groups of enemies and kill them to reduce the dp before going back to the main mission. Remember some targets are more important than others when it comes to mobs, warrior types are low priority for me. I kill the healers first then any other spellcasters then the grunts. If you have henchemen they attack what target you attack 3 human players attacking 3 different targets can really confuse them. Plan attacks and let one player call the target.

Dec 26, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40	#25
S_S Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: upstate new york Guild: S_S Profession: W/N	I was wondering about the runes and the names of them,that way I wont make the same mistake twice.And is there another way past Lornar's pass that would be a bit easier,if that is where I need to go for the better armor and runes.

Dec 26, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39	#27
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	Yikes! Ok, I won't comment on your skillbar, because I've never played a hammer warrior myself. I have no clue if those hammer skills are good or bad. However, I'd recommend dumping the cap sig for now. However, you really need a crash course in attribute distribution NOW!! You have points spread into every attribute. THIS...IS....NOT.....GOOD! Basically your point spread needs to match your skill bar. You're wasting your points in attributes that you aren't using. You have 6 in axe mastery. Why?? You aren't using an axe. You've also allocated points into your necro lines, yet you aren't using Necro skills. As a hammer warrior, you need to push Hammer Mastery up as far as it will go. First you need to take all your attributes down to 0 and start fresh. Next, put as many points into Hammer mastery as you can. 2nd, put as many points into strength as you can. Anything left over goes into tactics. If you want to experiment with 1 or 2 Necro skills on your bar then be sure to put some attributes in the Necro line as appropiate. However never forget that you are a warrior, not a necro. Your necro skills should only supplement and support your warrioring. (Psst, Plague Touch is a good one) Good Luck in your adventuring. If you have bought any of the other campaigns your warrior will be able to crossover into them once you reach Lion's Arch. You are close.

Dec 26, 2008, 11:54 PM // 23:54	#28
Healing Fool Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Holy Avengers [HA] Guild Leader Profession: A/	Do you have Necromancer skills on your skillbar? My suggestion would be to unspec all the necro attribute points and use them for your warrior attributes. There's really no need to spec points into everything. You're cutting yourself too thin on the effectiveness of your skills. By removing the attribute points from all the necromancer attributes, you will have more then enough to spec 9 into tactics to meet your shield requirement, if you choose to use axe or sword. Also, only use one of the weapon attributes (i.e. hammer but not axe or sword mastery). You can save skill setups with your hero panel and load/save different skill combinations (called builds) from any town or outpost. Also, get a helm that adds +1 to an attribute. Or one for each of the weapon masteries to use whenever you want to change the weapon you are using. There's really no reason to have more then a minor tactics rune. If you want a superior rune, use it for your weapon of choice. And get a superior absorption rune instead of the major one. Also, get a vigor rune that you can afford and put it into your armor somewhere. I would also suggest only using the nevermore flatbow for pulling if that's what you have the bows for. Hope this helps.

Dec 26, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57	#29
S_S Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: upstate new york Guild: S_S Profession: W/N	HEHEHE harsh,but very,very true about the attribute distribution.I was never very good at attribute distribution,guess I try to spread myself to thin to try and cover more then I should.Again more helpful info,thanks alot Raven,i'll see what I can do about my attributes. S_S

Dec 27, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00	#30
S_S Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: upstate new york Guild: S_S Profession: W/N	Thanks a lot guys. S_S

Dec 27, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#32
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	Much better! I'd recommend pushing your hammer mastery up higher. Buy a +1 Hammer headgear and a minor hammer rune. This will help you out with your damage. Also, something you said earlier just clicked in my head. In your first post you said you and your friends were level 20 or close to it....yet you're only at Beacon's Perch? My prophecies characters didn't reach level 20 until about midway thru the jungle and I did every single quest I could leading up to that point. You are still in the early stages of the game at Beacon's. How is it that you are level 20 already? What is your primary quest in your quest log? Also stay out of Lornar's Pass. It's one of the more difficult areas in the game and it's not necessary for you to travel thru it. You want to reach Lion's Arch which is thru Deldrimor Bowl. Once in Lion's Arch a lot of possibilities open up for you. You can buy better armor and if you make it there before New Year's Day, you can participate in some snow covered fun events.

Dec 27, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56	#34
Healing Fool Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Holy Avengers [HA] Guild Leader Profession: A/	Battle Preparations is a Nightfall quest. If you want to continue your way through Prophecies, you should do the Bloodstone Fen mission. But, you should make sure your friends skill bars and attributes are more along the lines of the last one you posted for their professions.

Dec 27, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20	#35
S_S Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: upstate new york Guild: S_S Profession: W/N	Thanks to everyone for the help,maybe now we can get back to normal,a special thanks goes to Healing Fool for his in game help. Thanks Again Guild S_S